My entire life I've just assumed that I was the weird one. Turns out everyone is weird too, and in every conceivable manner.

So weird that we waste so much effort worrying about not fitting in, instead of recognizing that it is totally normal to not fit in.

Listening to a podcast right now that talks about "The Left" as though there's only one culture in progressive views. Only one way to be a lefty. To me, being a lefty means you accept we all have different takes.

That was the point.

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@ewen don't you remember the lefty warcry? YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US. I call people like that lefties, and there are a lot of them. You're not allowed to disagree, or you're automatically a racist misogynist white supremacist.

@gr0k

Cant say that was ever my experience of left-wing politics. Not in Australia.

I remember an incredible range of people turning out to protest on the streets against the war in Iraq, to demand an apology to the stolen generation (Indigenous Australia), and many many other causes.

Was it GW Bush who said "YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US" after 911?

@ewen for me it started in Australia, where I used to live. It continues with left leaning westerners (most of the people in my life) throughout the world, especially in arts and NGO circles.

You're correct, the phrase was used by bush. It is also used in the bible, but was most recently used by BLM protesters.

@gr0k

I expect it would be hard to claim to be a lefty without being pro BLM.

The current leader of the opposition in Australia, conservative, refers to people like myself as a "dirty lefty". He'll probably will the next election, largely due to a lack of unity on the left. But politics is different to people. Most people vote for parties that don't actually represent their views anyway.

We're a strange species.

@ewen you sound like the kind of lefty I grew up around and respect. The kind of lefty I consider myself.

New school lefties are not this way. Just take a look at Carolyn's reply below. It's the polite version.

These are the people I run into every day. Who epitomise NYTimes best selling author Ibram X. Kendi's war cry: the only way to remedy past discrimination is future discrimination

@gr0k

Do you think getting older just makes things a little clearer?

As a younger fella I likely followed the crowd. I'm less easily influenced today.

@ewen yeah, it definitely helps. I'm no spring chicken, and having a bit of context and perspective certainly helps.

That said, some of the people I've been viciously attacked by for asking questions are even older than me. It could also just be a personality type.

@ewen thank you for this chat tho! There's definitely still good people out there. Thank you for being one of them

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