I get the feeling that cryptobros actively dislike ActivityPub because they haven’t been able to monetize it yet.
@atomicpoet why hasn't this been done? It seems that ActivityPub is a perfect candidate for bolting on some tip jar type functionality, and based on my naive understanding, money might be made there by either providing the service (as a third party) or owning the coin (if baked into the protocol).
@abogical @atomicpoet Crypto is not inherently evil, nor are all coins are bad... Blockchain and ActivityPub are both distributed technologies with similar goals, and fairly tech savvy communities. There are people doing wonderful things in the ActivityPub space who deserve to be rewarded, and crypto is a frictionless way to do this (providing transfer fees are minimal, which is why I put forward the option of a new coin, tho maybe ETH/ERC-20 - see Reddit Moons - or even BTC could work)
@gr0k
ActivityPub is more federated than decentralized. Plus, it doesn't attempt to do any strict method of proving order or validity of events. In social media, this isn't a big issue. But not in payments, that's why blockchains are appropriate for it.
You could probably implement tipping within an instance itself. But that would be separate from ActivityPub. And that requires you to trust the instance, so using blockchain is redundant. Essentaily you'd be reinventing Patreon :/
@atomicpoet
@abogical @atomicpoet Mastodon doesn't even adhere to most of ActivityPub standards, it wouldn't be hard to add a property that lets clients know your wallet ID and another property to describe the ID... The ability to do something with this could be built into official clients, or if a standard or consensus appeared then by third party clients. How is that anything like a centralised service like Patreon?
@gr0k
No problem with that. I think your original comment made me misunderstand you. I thought you meant to only use ActivityPub for payments, which didn't make sense to me.
By what you're describing, why not just add the wallet ID to the profile links list in Mastodon? That wouldn't need any special integration.
@atomicpoet
@abogical @atomicpoet for sure it could be added to your profile, but building it into the protocol would considerably increase the convenience and therefore uptake of the feature. It could be seamless. Someone posts something you enjoy? Boost and/or like, bookmark for later, or just click another icon to tip. Infinitely better than the paywall model. I'd like to show my support directly, so creators know exactly what it was that moved me.
@gr0k
"Coins" is where the devil is. It's what all scammers do in crypto is create useless "coins" which don't serve any clear advantage to regular currency.
Also, I can't see how ActivityPub could fit in the picture of payment processing. I'm curious, How is it a "perfect candidate" for tipping?
@atomicpoet